But on the second term after - once you receive a life sentence, there's no guarantee that you'll ever be released from prison. They ask how you are. Earlonne, until the end of November, was a prisoner. ERIN: Oh, [expletive]. POOR: It is a different world over there. That, in a nutshell, is the juxtaposition that defines Ear Hustle. By entering your email and clicking Sign Up, you're agreeing to let us send you customized marketing messages about us and our advertising partners. Yeah - the butcher cutters. Ear Hustle is a non-fiction podcast about prison life and life after incarceration created by Earlonne Woods and Antwan Williams, both formerly incarcerated, and Nigel Poor, an artist who volunteers at San Quentin State Prison. I go over to Nigel's house, hang out with her husband Rick. That was something that was volunteered to me. --. Earlonne holds an American nationality and white ethnicity. T WOODS: You know, he was ripping and running with the gangs. They say hello. They said that, hey, when you went to jail when you were 17 - yeah, it was one time, but there was two convictions in that case. You guys are killing me (laughter). GROSS: Nigel, when you first started volunteering in San Quentin, what were some of the things you had to deal with as a woman teaching in a prison of men? Woods is expected to be released on parole in the coming days, after serving 21 years of a 31-years-to-life sentence. Don't be - whatever you do, don't play with no guns. He spin his vinyl. So, yeah. ERIN: No, I don't feel you're being unfair at all, and I don't ultimately know what my hesitancy is. In 2016, it was selected by the Radiotopia network as the winner of its Podquest competition, and the following year released its first season. We called up Nigel Poor today to ask her about it, and she said that when they got the news yesterday, they were in the middle of making an episode. Now Earlonne will be doing interviews with people like him who are transitioning back into society. "Ear Hustle" the phrase is slang for eavesdropping is a collaboration between Earlonne Woods and Antwan Williams, both prisoners at San Quentin, and Nigel Poor, a Bay Area visual artist who teaches photography classes at the prison. Due to the complex and time-consuming bureaucratic challenges associated with unusual prison activities, she decided that audio would be easier to manage than video. She'll continue to do interviews inside San Quentin. You were OK with that? One is that you're going to get killed, and the other is that you'll eventually go to jail. After 21 years in prison, Governor Brown the great governor of California decided that I served enough time, Woods said in the latest. GROSS: Who - give us an example of somebody who you spoke to who had been a victim of a crime similar to the one that you committed that made you feel this, you know, sense of feeling bad for what you'd done. And he's standing in a group. (SOUNDBITE OF JOHN COLTRANE'S "OUT OF THIS WORLD"). My guests are Earlonne Woods and Nigel Poor, the co-hosts and co-producers of Ear Hustle, a podcast featuring their interviews with men incarcerated in San Quentin. And it would give the people inside the opportunity to stretch themselves intellectually and emotionally, so just creating more of a connection. POOR: OK. And you also spent time in solitary, where it's very hard to stay sane. After 21 years in prison, Governor Brown the great governor of California decided that I served enough time, Woods said in the latest episode of Ear Hustle. Like, in the county jail, I was like, OK, I'm done with this side of life because even though our philosophy growing up was for death though - you know, meaning I'd rather be carried by six than judged by 12 - that was just the philosophy we had growing up, you know? And your brother is still in San Quentin. But I took way more from that person than $1. So you can't wear blue, which is what they wear. But yeah, I can't. [9], In a Rolling Stone article about the show, Tana Ganeva called it "a fascinating, harrowing and also deeply entertaining look into life on the inside that runs the full gamut of emotions. And he used to come see me, you know, a lot. I don't know what tomorrow brings, but I know what's happening today and right now. I get to see how they express love and tenderness and fear and frustration and how they posture and what's behind that. Does that mean we're self-absorbed? Even after Woods is out on parole in Oakland, California, Ear Hustle said that it will continue, with Poor telling more tales from those inside San Quentin and Woods talking about the journey to re-enter society after years behind bars. GROSS: And - so you interviewed him about commuting your sentence. Earlonne is a brother to Shala Woods. And it has made me - it has made me care about men so much more. And Earlonne just had his sentence commuted by Governor Jerry Brown in November after serving 21 years. I've never had a problem. All rights reserved. He understood human nature. In April 1989, a drive-by shooting in San Francisco, CA, left at least 11 people injured, and 2 people dead. Earlonne is busy reporting on re-entry stories and daily life for people who were previously incarcerated, as well as documenting his own experiences. You are also agreeing to our Terms of Service and Privacy Policy. Ear Hustle was selected from 1,537 submissions, securing the funding for a 10-episode first season. In 1997, Earlonne was sentenced to thirty-one years to life in prison. I hope you'll join us. It received 1,537 entries from 53 countries. Tyler had missed a court appearance, so he feared that he would be locked up. And it's fine. Ear Hustle is a non-fiction podcast about prison life and life after incarceration created by Earlonne Woods and Antwan Williams, both formerly incarcerated, and Nigel Poor, an artist who volunteers at San Quentin State Prison. E WOODS: Right. Earlonne still co-hosts the show alongside Nigel. You feel invincible in some ways. ERIN: I don't - I don't know. Earlonne Woods is co-creator, co-producer and co-host of Ear Hustle from Radiotopia. A post shared by @earhustlesq on Mar 13, 2018 at 8:35pm PDT. In fact, when I walk through the yard, one of the things I really like is that people make eye contact. Before creating the podcast, Woods and Poor did interviews with inmates in San Quentin for public radio station KALW in San Francisco. The responding officers shot him five times, killed him. This is FRESH AIR. And it's all that some of the people that you choose to associate with do, you know? I used to sit there and ask God, "Like, why am I living if I have to die?" And I think at that age I was questioning God. And so (laughter) it was just incredible. Earlonne was both host and inmate, but he was released in November after his sentence was commuted by California Governor Jerry Brown. In 2018, California governor Jerry Brown commuted Earlonne Woods' sentence, citing Ear Hustle as a significant contributor to his reformation as an American citizen. And he said the thing that all women fear is that I raped women because I could. Jerry Brown commuted his 31-years-to-life sentence for attempted armed robbery. Trevor has done 14 years of a 36-year sentence. Earlonne was born in 1972, in the United States. Earlonne Woods and Nigel Poor started the podcast Ear Hustle when Woods was a prisoner in San Quentin. Then there are those marriages that become the subjects of books . My first prison term, I went to jail when I was 17. GROSS: So can I ask you an honest question? Part of HuffPost News. Everybody we know live the same lifestyle, you know? Earlonne resides in the United States. GROSS: Earlonne Woods and Nigel Poor are the co-creators, co-producers and co-hosts of the podcast Ear Hustle, which features interviews with men incarcerated in San Quentin. They had left the auntie's house. I love it. Earlonne Woods educational background is unavailable. And when it actually happened, it was a - it was an awakening in me, like, oh, I don't - why is we living this way, you know? Woods, 47, was recently released from San Quentin State Prison after California Gov. In November 2018, California Governor Jerry Brown commuted Earlonne's sentence after 21 years of . I think I was probably like eight years old when it came to me that one day I have to die. Like, me personally, what I took away from a lot of things is that, yeah, I may have robbed a person for, let's say, $1. And it's the way people would hope other people think that, hey, OK, I've done my time. Woods is expected to be released on parole in the coming days, after serving 21 years of a 31-years-to-life sentence. The two bonded over a love of storytelling and with no formal experience, began a podcast together where they showcase the . So to hear Governor Brown say that, it was like this is how we actually think. You're not really looking at the person. They surrounded Tyler around a - at a apartment building, where he was trying to climb up to the roof. You know what I'm saying? No, and I laugh because had Governor Brown probably not been the governor, I would still have 10 years of my sentence left. He and Nigel Poor began the podcast Ear Hustle when Earlonne was a prisoner in San Quentin. Earlonne Woods Wife Earlonne resides in the United States. When I called my mother, she told me this, right? No. Therefore, it is not known if Earlonne is single, dating, or married. And then the question is, well, what do we do about that? That stuff carries 17 years. Is he a good co-host? Woods has served 21 years of a 31 to life prison sentence. I think maybe 14 years in my sentence, I went to San Quentin. I took their security from them to even walk out the house and feel safe, you know? Ear Hustle was the first podcast to be created entirely inside a prison. He's also co-host of the podcast "Ear Hustle," which is why we had him on this program. E WOODS: I think - I was just tripping off - he was just peeling back one of the Beatles POOR: Oh, yeah. And I got out in '95. And when I was sitting in a county jail, you know, mentally, I pretty much divorced myself from that whole way of life in that moment, you know? And I - I observed Earlonne a lot. E WOODS: He got a hell of a collection of vinyl. And it was just like - it didn't even register with me. What keeps your hopes up? Redmond O'Neal is the son of American actor Ryan O'Neal and Farah Fawcett (an America. You - you - you always feel that you're better than getting killed, like you would never get killed. You know, prison, I'm going to live to the best of my ability. [12][13][14] Since his commutation, Woods has become involved in campaigns to repeal California's three strikes laws. Woods never used the drug, though became addicted to the money and lifestyle selling it provided. . An intimate view into the life and challenges of an asperger's spouse.It seems some marriages are so wonderfully stellar you have to look away or be blinded. E WOODS: I think the mentality is more of crime to you is a job. In 1997, Earlonne was sentenced to thirty-one years to life in prison. Don't be out there doing no robberies, none of that stuff. And to hear how it happened to him and to hear that he was shot 19 times, you know - and I just try to visualize, like, what he was going through at the time he was being shot at by those officers. It was the first podcast to be entirely created and produced inside a prison. Tyler was sent to live with extended family. Once you commit your crime, people think thats what it is, but individuals change. He gave up his brother name. We can go to a restaurant. POOR: How do we tell stories and leave out that part? But you look back, and you're looking at it like, I've wasted, like - I can say right now, I'm 47 years old. Earlonne Woods is the co-creator, co-host, and co-producer of Ear Hustle (PRX & Radiotopia). Kristi Tjaden. While incarcerated, he received his GED, attended Coastline Community College, and completed many vocational programs. Kourtney Kellar models for a variety of periodicals, companies, Toni Storm is a famous New Zealand-Australian wrestler, social media influencer, Instagram personality, OnlyFans star, and entrepreneur from Auckland, New Zealand. NPR transcripts are created on a rush deadline by an NPR contractor. I've changed my life. It focuses on both the personal and the political, shedding light on issues of mass incarceration and the criminal justice system by telling intimate, humanizing stories, like the tale of one inmates obsession with keeping small critters as pets in his cell or anothers struggle to be intimate with his wife while behind bars. Why we living like we don't care - because this is somehow how we grew up and how - since as early teenager we've been living in the streets, in the gangs. After you got out of San Quentin, you and Nigel went to the governor's mansion. He is a staff writer and podcast producer at KQED, as well as a graduate of UC Berkeley's School of Journalism. As co-host of the 2019 Third Coast Awards Ceremony, Earlonne will make his return to the "Oscars of Radio." Last year, he beamed in via video ( watch here ) after winning a 2018 Best Documentary: Honorable Mention Award as part of the Ear Hustle team. GROSS: My guests are Nigel Poor and Earlonne Woods, the creators and hosts of the podcast Ear Hustle about life inside San Quentin Prison. The podcast team announced Tuesday that it will hire Woods as an employee on the show. Aaron Taylor. Woods has served 21 years of a 31 to life prison sentence. [6] While in San Quentin, Woods was unpaid for his work on Ear Hustle, though fans would often send him money. [5] Woods role on the podcast was well-received, with Sarah Larson from The New Yorker describing him as an "immediately warm and likable presence",[10] while Eddie Harana from Rolling Stone praised the sense of humor he brought to the show. And so I want to play the part where you return to ask him that difficult question. Self's story opens the first episode of Ear Hustle, an engrossing new podcast out of San Quentin prison, a state facility in California. And, like E WOODS: My partners. You're sitting across from law enforcement. So I think I did what, pretty much, my community did that was around me. You know, he running the streets. Presently, Earlonne has not mentioned any details concerning his parents. 2023 BuzzFeed, Inc. All rights reserved. Instead of me representing it, Earlonne and I can represent it together. GROSS: So Tyler's father, your brother, is still in San Quentin during the final year that you were in San Quentin. But I always go over to the fantasy game guys, and I'll just sit there for a minute and try to see if I even come close to understanding what's going on on that table. I'm Terry Gross. And it might help you. Woods helped create Ear Hustle while incarcerated at San Quentin State Prison. For the first few months after Earlonne Woods was released from San Quentin in November, his "Ear Hustle" podcast co-host Nigel Poor kept receiving photos of ice cream on her phone. Through his podcast, [Woods] has shared meaningful stories from those inside prison.. It destroys hope, and it violates the principle that redemption is at the essence of what it is to be human. She co-created the podcast with Woods and has co-hosted and co-produced it with him. WOODSON: I used to work for the captain at CIW in the program office. Since the podcasts launch in 2017, its been downloaded, announcing the commutation, the governor echoed that thought, saying Woods has clearly shown that he is no longer the man he was when he committed this crime.. He does not, however, expose his wife's identity to the public. And he was always ready to help. But that was a case that challenged my desire to not know and to - how to deal with the knowing once it's been presented to you. Ear Hustle was a finalist for the 2020 Pulitzer Prize for Audio Reporting, and won a Alfred I. duPontColumbia University Award in 2021. But to hear the very next day that he was killed - and my mother is who told me. (SOUNDBITE OF NOEL BONNEVIE'S "DAHIL SA'YO"). Redmond O'Neal is a voice actor, Hollywood celebrity, and Star Kid from the United States. On his release from San Quentin State Prison, Woods was hired full time to continue the work started inside but also adding reentry stories. And then Trevor was arrested when their son, Tyler, was 10. Let's get back to my interview with Earlonne Woods and Nigel Poor, the creators and hosts of the podcast Ear Hustle, featuring interviews with prisoners in San Quentin about their lives and what it's like to be incarcerated. [7] Co-creators Woods and Antwan Williams were inmates at San Quentin State Prison for the first three seasons of the show. GROSS: So you know, you're a middle-aged man now. [8][9] Poor is a visual artist in the San Francisco Bay area who volunteers at the prison. [5] The show features interviews with inmates who share their stories and opinions on topics like cellmates, solitary confinement, race, morality, pets, religion, gangs, and family. Our associate producer for digital media is Molly Seavy-Nesper. Not one bit, you know? In 2020, Ear Hustle was named a finalist for a Pulitzer Prize in audio reporting the first time the . He is 49 years old. And I'm always interested in people who kind of fade into the background a little bit because I suspect they could be the most interesting people in the room. There's a man that I worked with for quite a while that I was very fond of. Earlonne Woods and Nigel Poor started the podcast Ear Hustle when Woods was a prisoner in San Quentin. Ive been taking showers for like 20 years.. And then I saw him in this awesome, orange T-shirt that had some brown in it. And, you know, I pretty much raised - because my brother was locked up. POOR: So one of the things is that I really believe that people change. I have all the different people that I talk to as I work my way down to the media lab. So we do stories about life inside prison. He is also involved in the Repeal California's Three Strike Coalition, which aims to end California . Earlonnes sentence was recently commuted, but the two proceed to tell stories of life behind bars. Earlonnes net worth is estimated to be $657,586. And I was - yeah, I was definitely nervous. His net worth is estimated to be $657,586. Earlonne Woods co-hosted the podcast Ear Hustle while incarcerated at San Quentin State Prison. Nigel Poor and Earlonne Woods are gifted storytellers, and their ability to draw intimate, authentic stories out of others is extraordinary. You know that it could be a possibility, but it's a possibility that you've seen pretty much your whole life, you know? Earlonne Woods is an American podcaster and author, best known for co-hosting and co-founding the podcast Ear Hustle in 2017, and co-authoring the book This Is Ear Hustle in 2021. And at one point, he revealed to me that he had raped quite a few women. GROSS: That was Governor Jerry Brown interviewed by my guests Earlonne Woods and Nigel Poor. POOR: I don't ask unless it comes up as part of the story. WOODS: That's something that a lot of us behind bars fantasize about - getting out and leading a normal life. Therese Madden directed today's show. 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